Friday, June 20, 2008

Democrats Cave on FISA


Is this really news to anyone?

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6 comments:

Mary Ellen said...

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was among the most vocal opponents of immunity in the Senate debate last year.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation's Bankston applauded Obama for his opposition to immunity for the phone companies, and he said he would "call upon him to be as vocal as possible on immunity in the coming days."

A spokesman for the Obama campaign didn't return phone calls or emails seeking comment for this article.


Let's see how vocal Obama will be on this, or will he do what he did in Illinois...not show up for the vote and remain mum? I am also interested to see what he will do if he's elected Prez. Hillary said that one of the first things she would do would be to give back all the power to Congress that Bush took away from them and go back to true checks and balances. I don't recall Obama saying the same thing. Will he give back that power, or will he enjoy the power it gives him? This will be the test as to the true nature Obama.

You're right...the Democratic Congress is spineless. It's time to clean House.

John J. said...

A couple months ago when this came up for vote, Obama was the only candidate that showed up and voted against it. Clinton did "not show up for the vote and remain[ed] mum."

Also, Obama has said that one of his first actions as president would be to go through every one of the executive orders Bush(I can't find where I originally read this has passed and revoke any that he and his attorney general deem unconstitutional. This has been his stance throughout his time in the Senate.

Mary Ellen said...

john j- Actually, the first time Obama was asked what will be the first thing he will do if he is elected President, he said he would sit in the chair in the Oval Office and say "That feels good!". After Hillary was asked the same question and said that she would dump all the executive orders that took away the power of Congress, he revised his answer....out of embarrassment.

I would have to check on that vote because I don't think I can take your word on it. And, if I recall, it wasn't the same bill. I'll look into it.

John J. said...

He co-sponsored the amendment that would strike the immunity clause - http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015


As for the first part, I don't know if you just don't have a sense of humor, or just turn it off when Obama is talking, but that is what is called a joke.

John J. said...

Sorry blogger cut off the original link - click here instead.

mwb said...

Well, given almost all the Democrats including Senators Clinton and Obama voted to renew the Patriot Act (one of the linchpins for undermining so many Civil Liberties) - I can't say I'm surprised.